2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby DarthTrooper » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:22 pm

Great write up! In the process of doing this myself. I don't see any mention of the wiring of the 1-2 switch and the 4WD switch on the AR5 are they needed?
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby flydex28 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:27 pm

If I remember correctly, I did not use the 1-2 switch connector (still not really sure what it is)...only the reverse light connector. Is the 4wd switch you are referring to the connector on the transfer case? I kept the TOD case from the auto so in my swap those just plugged right back in. I think i mention it on page 2. Sorry for the slow reply...had some unexpected stuff come up and not able to sign on as much.
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby DarthTrooper » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:46 pm

Hey Chris, thanks for the info! There are three electrical connections on the main body of the AR5, one being the back-up switch. I guess I can leave the other two?
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby flydex28 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:16 am

Trying to remember the third switch. On the passenger side there is the blue connector (reverse lights), the gray connector (1-2?)...and could you refresh my memory where the third one, The 4wd connector is. Do you have the matching connector already on your current harness? Are you doing the same swap as me with the ar5 and TOD case?
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby DarthTrooper » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:54 am

Yes AR5 with TOD. The third switch is on the top of the case in between the reverse and the 1-2 switch, it is slightly obscured by a little cover. This may just be a switch to light up the 4WD lamp on the manual instrument panel?
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby flydex28 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:27 pm

Hmm... is it in one of the pictures I took. I just don't remember a third switch right there. I would go out and look but I just had surgery and cant get to it. Any way you could post a pic if it's not in one of mine?
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby DarthTrooper » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:39 pm

Well I got mine in and did not use the two other connections. Everything is working perfectly so far. Thanks for this very informative post!
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby flydex28 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:13 pm

Your welcome. I'm glad you got it working.
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby thor79 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:02 pm

When you put in the manual ecu, did you have to change keys and locks or did it not effect the originals?
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby flydex28 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:28 am

Ignition and door lock keys?...No you won't change those. You will cable tie the ignition cable though. I will try to fix the rest of the pictures in this thread as soon as I can.
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby thor79 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:05 am

Ok thanks. Had gotten some mixed opinions so I thought I would ask you as you have done the conversion. Just waiting to get some clutch parts and start putting it all back together. Thanks for the write up and all the info.
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby jet427 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:58 pm

This is great info, thanks for sharing so much. I'm gathering all the parts to do a swap on my 2002 trooper, butI'm having trouble locating the ECM. Do you happen to have the part number of the 2002 ECM that you used?
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby flydex28 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:35 am

Hey no problem, So on car-part.com. if you search for a 2002 ECM it turns up no results but if you search for a 2001 it has a few. I would recommend calling the yards listed and having them verify it is an actual manual transmission ECM. Sometimes it is listed wrong. Look at both "from 03/01 MT" and "thru 02/01 MT". I think thats gonna be your best bet. Maybe a 2002 ECM will pop up eventually but the 2001 should work just fine.
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby sno » Fri May 17, 2019 1:07 pm

I'm looking to a manual swap my 3.2L 1993 Trooper LS. Do you think most of what you described in your writeup will remain the same for my model year?
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby flydex28 » Fri May 17, 2019 2:33 pm

Hi there, I would think it should be similar but I believe your Trooper will have the MUA 5 speed transmission so there will be some differences. Here are a couple helpful links for you.
https://www.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=87677

https://www.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=49934

Also make sure you read thru this one regarding putting an ar5 transmission in a 3.2.
https://forum.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopi ... 22&t=72724
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby sno » Fri May 17, 2019 3:19 pm

flydex28 wrote:Hi there, I would think it should be similar but I believe your Trooper will have the MUA 5 speed transmission so there will be some differences. Here are a couple helpful links for you.
https://www.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=87677

https://www.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=49934

Also make sure you read thru this one regarding putting an ar5 transmission in a 3.2.
https://forum.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopi ... 22&t=72724


Great, thanks. As for transfer cases, will the tcase from my automatic line up correctly with the MUA5? Or am I better off taking the one from the higher mileage MT donor trooper?
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby flydex28 » Fri May 17, 2019 4:49 pm

Pretty sure the mua transmission/transfer case is a one piece integrated design. I dont think you can swap transfer cases.
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby jc_in_az » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:05 am

Great thread!

Do you think a few things would've gone easier if you used a same year AR5 as your auto was (99 AR5 for 99 auto)? I pulled a ton of parts from my donor truck, including the ECU. Maybe it'll go in with fewer issues?
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby flydex28 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:41 am

jc_in_az wrote:Great thread!

Do you think a few things would've gone easier if you used a same year AR5 as your auto was (99 AR5 for 99 auto)? I pulled a ton of parts from my donor truck, including the ECU. Maybe it'll go in with fewer issues?


No I dont think it would have mattered that much at all. What year Troopers you are using?
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby jc_in_az » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:22 pm

Both are 99.
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Re: 2001 Trooper Auto 4L30E to Manual AR5 w/TOD swap

Postby flydex28 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:11 pm

jc_in_az wrote:Both are 99.


That's the way to go. I wish I'd had a donor vehicle. That itself would have made it a lot easier. If I remember correctly the only real problem I ran into with different years was the brake pedal issue. The rest was either self inflicted or myself not knowing what I was doing. But overall it was fun and I learned a lot doing it.
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