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89 trooper creative build

Postby bradzuzu » Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:17 am

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The nicest thing about this is that it's not my dd , that right there relieves some stress..
I have a milion different cenerio's going through my head at this point , options options options... No engine equals possible repower and I do have a chev v8 & 700r4 just sitting around :)

I could use this as a jig to build a few different bumpers , could do a cage on it too !! The list could go on and on..

Ideas and thoughts welcome

Kinda feels good to have a first gen again
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby -88- » Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:31 am

Have we not covered rockets and jet engines enough?

a general idea of what you want to do helps us suggest what to do. Like do you plan on building it up so big it makes the migo look like a plastic surgery barbie jeep. Little less wild then that, more so, eventual new DD so you can rocket power the migo? You have to help us help you. Otherwise 30inch rims, laying frame with stock floor body drop, chopped and channeled, with 3500 bags 8valves and nitrogen. :D

Congrats can't wait to see where she/he goes.

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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby itsmehb » Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:05 am

Just wondering, how did you get the engine out without pulling the tranny or the front axle. The 85 I worked on, the reason I didn't end up pulling the engine was in order to pull it, either the transmission or the front axle had to come out first, and that was to much work for an old fart like me.
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby gruff54 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:03 am

itsmehb wrote:Just wondering, how did you get the engine out without pulling the tranny or the front axle. The 85 I worked on, the reason I didn't end up pulling the engine was in order to pull it, either the transmission or the front axle had to come out first, and that was to much work for an old fart like me.


Not sure about '86 and back, but engine can be pulled 1st on '88 - '91. Not sure about an '87, I may be fixing to find out. May have something to do with the removeable trans crossmember on the newer ones.

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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby itsmehb » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:57 am

Do know on the 85 the oil pan hits the front axle before the engine clears the tranny shaft. And yes the 85 tranny cross member is non removeable.
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby shaggydoink » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:47 am

OMG, you got a Trooper! I can't wait to see what you do with this!!! :thumbup:

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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby imamonstertruck » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:01 pm

shaggydoink wrote:OMG, you got a Trooper! I can't wait to see what you do with this!!! :thumbup:

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YEah! Me too!!! :shock: But I will have to get back you on my thoughts as my mind has just been blown.

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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby shaggydoink » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:59 pm

My initial thought would be to do a complete convertible top, sort of like a 70s Bronco or Scout with some rollbar/cage work... that would be pretty rad!

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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby DSUZU » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:24 pm

The '87 engine will come out w/o removing trans or axle, but you have to drop the bottom of the oil pan.
I vote 4 door pickup truck. "Stretch it using a first gen PUP bed (I'm pretty sure the body lines are the same). Then go Chevy power. Dennis
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby foytiX » Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:12 pm

YES, YES, .......YES :twisted:
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby bradzuzu » Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:50 pm

I just randomly emailed Jerry about my thoughts .. 1rst crazy thought cutting it down the middle and adding around 4"s and about the same to the front for engine/radiator room, his response " get another one and cut them offset" then I'd only have one weld... That guy is crazy !!! Like a fox !!

Thanks for the interest guys !!

The engine looks to have been pulled pan and all judging by the grease scrapes on the diff , not sure though I got it this way..
Although widening it would be sweet it would be a lot of work.. I guess I'll ask all the trooper owners if it was an option would you prefer the room, would it be way better ??

The stretch of the front will most likely happen..
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby leftarmtan » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:23 pm

Can't wait for this one.personally I like the width of the stock Trooper but I guess it depends on what it is being used for.Trails around here-the narrower the better.
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby bradzuzu » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:23 pm

Good point to make , longer by 4"s should be the only nessisary mod... Reason for width is the thought of full width running gear, more like mid size but if I keep the rear and use a wagonere front axle I'll have to space the rear for sure...
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby DSUZU » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:33 pm

Not to mention that widening would also necessitate a new windshield. Couldn't you just offset the core support? Dennis
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby foytiX » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:01 pm

Narrow body plus wide axles equals more room for exo cage and protection.
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby bradzuzu » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:17 pm

I just want it built with taste not the mofo look :)

Hasn't someone built metal fender flares before ??

I think if I do a cage which I want to, getting an upright between the double doors is gonna be a ball bitch lol

All the guys at work are actually drooling over it :) it needs a frame off clean up though..
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby squatch » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:27 pm

itsmehb wrote:Just wondering, how did you get the engine out without pulling the tranny or the front axle. The 85 I worked on, the reason I didn't end up pulling the engine was in order to pull it, either the transmission or the front axle had to come out first, and that was to much work for an old fart like me.


Piece of cake to pull a 2.6. Check my build threads. Brad same advice. Best build for a 1st gen is Kiss principle. Keep the mods simple and work on the details. It'll do anything a built crazy one will and be more fun and useable. Will be more reliable as well.

Except I want to see you put a v6 MUA5 trans in it and a 3.8 Buick Grand National engine. It's a drop in!

Once I get back from the hospital after recovering from the heart attack caused by seeing you with something besides one of those "Cute" little 'Migo's I'll say more! :lol:
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby -88- » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:43 pm

DSUZU wrote:The '87 engine will come out w/o removing trans or axle, but you have to drop the bottom of the oil . I vote 4 door pickup truck. "Stretch it using a first gen PUP bed (I'm pretty sure the body lines are the same). Then go Chevy power. Dennis


I hate you...i don't have enough crazy ideas in my head already including a 4 door truck build, but a 1st gen troop would be the easiest. Both gen rodeos, and later troopers the rear wheel well eats into the rear door hard, alot more body work and cab restructuring....1st gen troop way less of all that. If the body lines don't match imo oh well, if doing the conversion on a troop any generation, I think I'd much rather a 6ft skirted flat bed over a dualy axle, with a headache rack that compliments everything..... Takes alot of mincing out of the equation and gives one versatile setup imo.


How fancy a flair you talking about brad? Trailer fenders can be manipulated into works of metal art and are fairly inexpensive. Or they can be a good base to then sculpt around.....
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby bradzuzu » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:20 am

I thought I had seen tube fender flares with a flat top of metal maybe an 1-1/2"s, could taper to accent the existing flare...

Squatch you about scared the crap out of me talkin heart attack !!

Lots of ideas flowin , keep em comin !!

I do however like the enclosed back to keep stuff dry... One great thing about a flat windshield is it'd be easy to have one cut...
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby -88- » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:43 am

Kind of like how they tube under jeep front fenders? With rolled edge trlr fenders you'd get that look to a degree.....It's going to depend on how wide you need to go b4 we talk construction method in more detail honestly tho....
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby bradzuzu » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:31 am

Trying to think of the width difference of 1rst gen and 2nd gen , 4"s ?? The waggy axle was a little narrow for the amigo so it might be just right... Or stretch the frame up front to clear the engine pushing the ifs forward more and run 2nd gen torsion bars ?!?!
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby squatch » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:32 am

Not to worry. I'm a heartless bastard so cardiac is not likey!

You scared the hell out of me with a 1st gen Trooper! :lol: :lol:
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby DSUZU » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:43 am

-88- wrote:
DSUZU wrote:The '87 engine will come out w/o removing trans or axle, but you have to drop the bottom of the oil . I vote 4 door pickup truck. "Stretch it using a first gen PUP bed (I'm pretty sure the body lines are the same). Then go Chevy power. Dennis


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Get in line!!!! I hate myself. Too many ideas, too little time, money, and energy. At the risk of hijacking this thread, my original plan was to make a 4 door, 4Wd Rodeo/pickup. (I had that idea, all measurements, a "donor" pickup, and no time, before I found this site and saw Ron's (lowzone) crewcab. Then the Spacer came along. Now my wife hates: the Spacer, Planetisuzoo, and me! :D . Only kidding. She is ready for the Spacer to be a DD and me to be dreaming about and working on the house. Dennis
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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby imamonstertruck » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:30 pm

squatch wrote:Not to worry. I'm a heartless bastard so cardiac is not likey!

You scared the hell out of me with a 1st gen Trooper! :lol: :lol:


Mark, reading this put my hot tea through my nose :lol: :lol: :lol:


You guys talking about something like these?....
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...of course these are for a Jeep, but I have considered this for my trooper. Be much thinner

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Re: 89 trooper creative build

Postby bradzuzu » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:38 pm

Yes something just like that setup , thanks Ian !!
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