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Postby itsmehb » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:29 pm

Trivia, and not the car type. Hope you guys don't mind. Son was at the airport in Manhattan KS today, hoping to catch a standby flight to Dallas to check out a car. He didn't make the flight as it was cancelled, but got a treat in seeing a B-29 arrive there, then take off and land again after taking some vets on a ride. The B-29, for you younger guys was the workhorse of WW2 and carried both of the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan. This particular B-29 is one of only 2 still in flying condition and is named "DOC" after one of the seven dwarfs. Built right there in KS. Hope the pic loads.
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Re: Trivia

Postby DSUZU » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:53 am

For those of us in the "younger" (and I'm 63) generation, getting to see a B-29 FLY is a rare, and unique experience. With the addition of Doc, it is a little less rare now. I got to see FiFi take off when she had her original engines back in 1982. The thunderous roar was glorious. She now has newer engines that were custom built up using original type R3350s (that's 3 THOUSAND 3 hundred 50 cubic inches). The "hybrid" 3350s run a little moore quietly, and I believe they either deleted the superchargers or don't use them. I'm not sure what engines "Doc" uses.
Both planes were on the China Lake target range and slated for destruction as targets. FiFi was saved (maybe late 60s?). Doc was actually a target and a pilot had her in his sights and said "I can't destroy this thing". Doc was recovered in the late 80s or early 90s, and IIRC, they had to tow it across the desert for something like 17 miles using a front end loader. As many know, we came close to having a third airworthy B-29 with the attempted recovery of "Kee-Bird" a few years back, but that ended in disaster when she caught fire and there was nothing but snow to fight the fire with. Kermit Weeks has a disassembled B-29 in storage and someday it will fly, but it is way down his list.
FWIW, it costs somewhere in the neighborhood of $10,000 per operational hour to fly these planes. Much of that is offset by volunteer work. I had the opportunity to assist with engine maintenance on FiFi back in 1994, but was too busy at the time. :cry. It is one of 3 major bad decisions I made with my aviation history. Dennis
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Re: Trivia

Postby RickP » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:56 am

My aunt had boyfriend when she was in her 70's and he was a Gunner on a B29 during WWII. Walter developed Alzheimer's and no matter how confused he was, if you brought up the B29, he lit up and could tell you every little detail and specs about it and also had some amazing stories.
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Re: Trivia

Postby itsmehb » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:07 am

RickP wrote:My aunt had boyfriend when she was in her 70's and he was a Gunner on a B29 during WWII. Walter developed Alzheimer's and no matter how confused he was, if you brought up the B29, he lit up and could tell you every little detail and specs about it and also had some amazing stories.


If he was a tail gunner here's a pic of the tunnel he had to crawl through to get to his tail gun position. All hero's in my book.
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Postby RickP » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:11 am

Not knowing if you will be coming back every time you go up in the air and watching other planes going down with your friends in it, must have been an absolutely horrible experience.
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Re: Trivia

Postby DSUZU » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:47 pm

Fact: During 1944 it was considered more dangerous to fly a training mission here in the States than it was to fly an actual combat mission overseas. The B-29 was a lot of airplane to handle, and quite a few were lost in training accidents. Dennis
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Re: Trivia

Postby Strelets_410 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:19 pm

Wasn't the B-26 called "Widow Maker" as well, due to the fact that it was hard to master for beginner pilots? But in any way, by the time the B-29 entered frontline service, the Japanese air force was a mere shadow of what it once was, and the feared Luftwaffe with its jet fighters and high performance prop planes (long-nosed Fw.190s, for example) faced only B-17s, 24s and British bombers. So, a B-29 crew faced much less enemy opposition than their predecessors flying B-17s or Lancasters over Germany.
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Re: Trivia

Postby DSUZU » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:26 pm

There was still a fair share of B-29 combat losses. The Japanese had some advanced fighters and also were known for ramming B-29s. As for the B-26, it really got a bad rap. Yes, there were a lot of training losses, and it was an unforgiving aircraft, but putting green pilots (pilot trainees) in them was like giving "student drivers" a Lambo, Ferrari, or something along those lines. There were also Marauder (B-26) losses because some (many) of those "kids" pushed the hi-performing hot rods just a little too far. When it went into an aerodynamic stall, which often led to a spin, it usually took about a mile of altitude to do a stall recovery. Once Marauders got into combat, they finished the war with one of the LOWEST combat loss ratios. Dennis
1991 LS Trooper 2.8 V6 5 speed conversion (Sold)
1989 LS Spacecab 2.6 5 speed 4x4 manual hubs, Rodeo torsion bars, extended shackles, 2" lift, K&N air filter (drop in), dump bed conversion, burgundy interior change, warn brush bar. Engine is bored .020 oversize and upgraded to 1994 pistons, head and EFI system.
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Re: Trivia

Postby DSUZU » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:52 pm

It's been all over the news the last few days about one of the few B-17s doing "historical tours and flights" that crashed Thursday. It is very tragic that lives were lost. It's tragic that this historic icon was lost, but almost equally as tragic is that a couple of scumbag politicians are now calling for "oversight" and bans to this activity. They want to protect us from ourselves.
While there is great risk should something go wrong on one of these flights, people who take them are made fully aware of the risks AND have to sign a waiver before boarding the plane. The media is twisting things around trying to "grandstand" on a tragic event. Dennis
1991 LS Trooper 2.8 V6 5 speed conversion (Sold)
1989 LS Spacecab 2.6 5 speed 4x4 manual hubs, Rodeo torsion bars, extended shackles, 2" lift, K&N air filter (drop in), dump bed conversion, burgundy interior change, warn brush bar. Engine is bored .020 oversize and upgraded to 1994 pistons, head and EFI system.
Previously owned: 1987 Trooper II LS, 1989 Trooper (parts only), 1994 Trooper 3.2 Auto, 1997 Rodeo 2.6 5 speed, 1993 shortbed pickup 2.3 (project - sold) 1992 Rodeo 4x4 LS (parts car, devoured by Spacecab needs) plus some 70 plus other non Isuzu vehicles over the years. 1994 Amigo devoured to provide head and EFI system.
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Re: Trivia

Postby itsmehb » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:01 pm

DSUZU wrote:It's been all over the news the last few days about one of the few B-17s doing "historical tours and flights" that crashed Thursday. It is very tragic that lives were lost. It's tragic that this historic icon was lost, but almost equally as tragic is that a couple of scumbag politicians are now calling for "oversight" and bans to this activity. They want to protect us from ourselves.
While there is great risk should something go wrong on one of these flights, people who take them are made fully aware of the risks AND have to sign a waiver before boarding the plane. The media is twisting things around trying to "grandstand" on a tragic event. Dennis


Well said, Dennis. As I understand the pilot had the most hours of any 17 pilot
alive. Sometimes problems can be beyond the best to overcome. Very tragic. Typical media now days....Harry
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