This site is owned by a huge conglomerate, They also provide very little attention aside from keeping the software running. I appreciate your intentions, but I don´t believe your contribution would do more than line their already fat wallet. Years back when it was privately owned I´m sure it would have been a much appreciated help.
"Premium Membership Support" question
I want to support the Planet (and/or, the person or people who are keeping things running), so I was wondering if the "Premium Membership Support" supports the forum "owner/s" (moderators/s?) or just supports the web hosting company?
thanks!
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Thanks for the answer...too bad it wouldn't go towards an actual human who uses/runs this forum. But oh well! It saves me $20 a year.
I've had this same question and never asked it, so thanks for the discourse!
We are all premium members at heart lol
group hug?
I really wish when this site was sold, the option would have been given for some member or members to buy it. But alas when we found out about it, it was done and done.
Hey there,
To answer your question, Premium Membership does, in fact, go to the company responsible for keeping the community online. Premium Membership has the dual benefit of buying a pile of perks that we're even now working to expand and improve, as well as supporting the solvency and longevity of the community.
Premium Membership goes to support the site, the engineers who keep the software running and secure, the community managers who support the mods and admins who ensure the worst of the internet doesn't creep in and take hold, and the costs to keep the tech up. But, Premium Membership isn't meant to be an expression of civic duty like volunteering as a mod or flagging a spam post - it should present a value in the way of the benefits it provides, and cheaper by half than most premium membership programs out there. If it doesn't yet, don't buy it, there's no pressure to do so. But we're working on rolling out some extras that hopefully will add to the overall package deal.
Hopefully, this helps answer any questions! And hoping to have more on premium membership expansion in the near future to share with you guys.
Warm Regards,
Joe Pishgar
Chief Community Officer, VerticalScope
To answer your question, Premium Membership does, in fact, go to the company responsible for keeping the community online. Premium Membership has the dual benefit of buying a pile of perks that we're even now working to expand and improve, as well as supporting the solvency and longevity of the community.
VerticalScope has a little north of 200 employees across around 1,600 communities. I love the idea that we're a huge megalithic corporation, but honest-to-goodness, we're smaller by quite a bit than other platform-publishers of a comparable portfolio of sites. We do keep the software running, and I can double-check, but I'm pretty sure we've invested the most into developing forums over the past 10 years than any other single company out there short of Reddit, (if you count Reddit as a forum). Communities are incredibly important to us, it's why we have as many of them as we do, and it's why we've gone to great lengths to acquire and save many that would have otherwise been abandoned by founders or fallen obsolete to outdated tech. This isn't a story we've been very good at telling since we don't spend anything on marketing or self-promotion. But keeping these communities healthy and stable, and even growing, has been our big focus.This site is owned by a huge conglomerate, They also provide very little attention aside from keeping the software running. I appreciate your intentions, but I don´t believe your contribution would do more than line their already fat wallet. Years back when it was privately owned I´m sure it would have been a much appreciated help.
Premium Membership goes to support the site, the engineers who keep the software running and secure, the community managers who support the mods and admins who ensure the worst of the internet doesn't creep in and take hold, and the costs to keep the tech up. But, Premium Membership isn't meant to be an expression of civic duty like volunteering as a mod or flagging a spam post - it should present a value in the way of the benefits it provides, and cheaper by half than most premium membership programs out there. If it doesn't yet, don't buy it, there's no pressure to do so. But we're working on rolling out some extras that hopefully will add to the overall package deal.
As one of the humans who helps to run this forum, yes, yes it does. ChatGPT and robotic AI overlords on the way notwithstanding, there's still a lot of human effort that goes into ensuring a forum community doesn't become garbage in short order!Thanks for the answer...too bad it wouldn't go towards an actual human who uses/runs this forum. But oh well! It saves me $20 a year.
Hopefully, this helps answer any questions! And hoping to have more on premium membership expansion in the near future to share with you guys.
Warm Regards,
Joe Pishgar
Chief Community Officer, VerticalScope
The point was, that VS adds nothing to the content , and that the funds would not go to anyone in the community.
Ahh, quite right! No editorial on staff at current for this site, from my understanding. Most of our communities are fully user-generated content as classic-style forums.The point was, that VS adds nothing to the content , and that the funds would not go to anyone in the community.
-JP
Well, this used to be user generated, and enthusiast owned.Ahh, quite right! No editorial on staff at current for this site, from my understanding. Most of our communities are fully user-generated content as classic-style forums.
-JP
Leeches!Ahh, quite right! No editorial on staff at current for this site, from my understanding. Most of our communities are fully user-generated content as classic-style forums.
Sorry you feel that way. There are folks here who do appreciate that we keep the lights on and keep things stable and secure. Others prefer social media like Facebook and Instagram, and we don't begrudge anyone their platform choice.Leeches!
-JP
He does have a point on the unkept promises.Sorry you feel that way. There are folks here who do appreciate that we keep the lights on and keep things stable and secure. Others prefer social media like Facebook and Instagram, and we don't begrudge anyone their platform choice.
-JP
at the end of the day I just hope the forums get put up for sale before they just get shut down so we dont end up like 4x4wire
I will say - Facebook groups tend to be harder to navigate and some aren't as friendly or easily able to get support from as this and other forums.Sorry you feel that way. There are folks here who do appreciate that we keep the lights on and keep things stable and secure. Others prefer social media like Facebook and Instagram, and we don't begrudge anyone their platform choice.
-JP
Facebook groups absolutely suck and were a step back.I will say - Facebook groups tend to be harder to navigate and some aren't as friendly or easily able to get support from as this and other forums.
Navigation is terrible and most of them are locked into private status.
Meaning if the admins or mods quit using facebook then you cant get in to access info until it allows someone else to take over.
From a technical standpoint, this is better than before. I'm even semi-happy with the forum software, although ads take up way too much of my screen and there's one particular thing about the banner ads that I'd even call unethical and deceptive -- but you'd have to know a bit about html and css to even care about it.
My issue is not about the technical stuff. It's about being pimped by outsiders who don't have a care or a clue about the whole reason for the forum, aside from the revenue stream it brings them, and made promises they had no plans to keep -- just to placate the masses.
My issue is not about the technical stuff. It's about being pimped by outsiders who don't have a care or a clue about the whole reason for the forum, aside from the revenue stream it brings them, and made promises they had no plans to keep -- just to placate the masses.
have you tried Brave browser? Nary an add to be seen, not even on Youtube.From a technical standpoint, this is better than before. I'm even semi-happy with the forum software, although ads take up way too much of my screen and there's one particular thing about the banner ads that I'd even call unethical and deceptive -- but you'd have to know a bit about html and css to even care about it.
My issue is not about the technical stuff. It's about being pimped by outsiders who don't have a care or a clue about the whole reason for the forum, aside from the revenue stream it brings them, and made promises they had no plans to keep -- just to placate the masses.
I don't have a problem with ad-supported services in principle. But when an ad shifts position and size while loading, it's bound to get clicked in error. That is, I'm trying to select the first unread topic, and suddenly an ad moves under my finger/cursor and gets clicked. That is either intentional (to deceptively get clicks), or ignorant of basic html/css design. Ethical design has a "size" property that's "reserved" before the image loads, so that it doesn't shift while loading.have you tried Brave browser? Nary an add to be seen, not even on Youtube.
If we all used Brave, or ad blockers, there would be no ad revenue. The forum could not continue as a commercial endeavor without some ad revenue. Maybe that would be bad, maybe not.
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