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Although the Ascender cannot go very well offroad, or climb mountains like the Trooper, Its a dran good SUV that looks good and has nice ISUZU characteristics, even though its built by GM. I know GM has destroyed ISUZU, but buying an Ascender still makes a quick profit for isuzu because they spent 0$ on developing it, and money is what they need now. Since its the only American isuzu to offer 3 rows of seating, it targets a new audience that Isuzu should tap into more often, families like mine. The Ascender is fully worthy of the ISUZU nameplate, combining good looks, power, space, towing capablity, and refinement. It has the most standard features and the lowest price. The warranty for the 2003 Ascender is the longest for any other vehicle for any other brand, 10 years/ 120,000 miles. That says something. I wrote this review on www.thecarconnection.com to help out my beloved Ascender. Its time ISUZU enthusiasts embrace the Ascender and welcome it to the family.

ISUZU, the SUV specialists, has released a new mid-size SUV for the 2003 model year. Available in 2003 in a 7-passenger model, and adding a 5-passenger model in 2004, it is identical to and built in the same American factory as the GMC Envoy/ Chevy Trailblazer/ Oldsmobile Bravada/ Buick Rainier. It has slightly different styling that makes its outward appearance distinctly ISUZU, and is somewhat bolder and nicer looking than its cousins from GM. The whole body and interior of the vehicle is American made, but the powertrain (available in a powerful v6 and v8) is a strong, nearly bulletproof ISUZU engine that ISUZU is renowned around the world for. The interior is very comfortable, with ample seating for seven, and wood grain trim standard. Overall it is a very accomadating and tasteful interior. In the top of the line model, the rich black leather blends luxuriously with the wood trim and the rest of the extremely spacious interior. With the folding seats, the vehicle can hold up to an amazing 100 CUBIC FEET of cargo. Thats almost unprecendented for a midsize. The ride of this vehicle is almost flawless, smooth and soft as a cloud. The engine runs smoothly and quietly, making the backseat that can fold into a bed-like configuration a road trip dream. The standard towing equipment can tow up to 7,200 LBS! But enough of all the features and capabilities, the bottom line will put the icing on the cake. PRICES START AT ONLY $27,000. I've even see them as low as $25,999, as sales have not been as good as hoped for due to a lack of advertising. Even the posh top of the line model stickers at only about $33,000, with every amenity you could ever hope for. Compared to others, this is how the Ascender's price compares. Remember they are the exact same vehicle built with the same parts at the same factory with the same features.
BASE MODEL PRICES WHEN COMPORABLY EQUIPPED:
Isuzu Ascender: around $27,000.
GMC Envoy: $30,270
Buick Rainier:(not yet anounced oficially, but said to be betwenn $35,000 and $40,000.(only available with 5 seats).
Oldsmobile Bravada: $32,570 (only available with 5 seats).
Chevy Trailblazer: $30,820.

WARRANTY:
ISUZU: 3 YR/ 50,000 MI. BUMBER TO BUMPER, 10 YR/120,000 MI POWERTRAIN.
GMC: 3 yr/36,000 mi.
Chevy:3 yr, 36,000 mi.
Buick:3 yr/ 36,000 mi.
Oldsmobile:3 yr/ 36,000 mi.

Clearly, the ISUZU Ascender beats its competitiors in every single way, and the price is thousands less. On the road, everybody in the cars next to us would turn and stare, as in awe of its style. What more is there to say! Check it out now!
 

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Your right! hands down the Ascender is the better bang for the buck, but it is missing one thing. A dealer network. Over the past 5 years more and more Isuzu Dealers in the US have been closing up shop. So it is hard to turn that diehard chevy guy when there are so few dealers around.
-Ryan
PS welcome to the Family - we're all friendly here!
 

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Maybe I am misinformed, but to my knowledge, there are no isuzu engines in the ascender. I thught it was all GM powertrain.
 

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rjc- you are correct. The current ascender is identical in every way to the (long wheel base) chevrolet trailblazer, aside from some exterior & interior cosmetics. The same as how the honda passport is an isuzu rodeo. I am sure the ascender is a great vehicle if that's what you are looking for, but it is still 100% general motors :roll: :cry: . Even our rodeo's have way too much GM hardware for my liking. I dont totally dislike GM, it's just if you buy isuzu, it shoud be all isuzu!

G/luck
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i have looked at these in the past. They are a vary nice rig and hopefully they get isuzu a better foot hold. As far as isuzu going away, never. Whith out the GMs truck would suck, they need someone who knows how to make a diesel (remeber the disaster that was the 6.2 GM?).
 

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Maybe this would be a better way to increase the Isuzu dealership network. My local Isuzu dealership also sells Jeep! I see it as a great mix with both Jeep & Isuzu on the lot. It gives the consumer several price points and certainly many models of 4x4's to choose from. I am considering trading in my 99' Isuzu Rodeo next spring and that will be my first stop.
 

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How is it horrible 2eyefishclaw, just curios. We havent really had anything wrong in our first year, which is approaching in a couple weeks. Though, there sometimes is a squeky noise coming from the back that happens only on certain days. I think it has something to do with the climate down here in So Tex though, one day its 100, the next day a cool front comes in and its in the 50's. Maybe its the temperature fluctuation, or do you know anything. Even if there is something though we still have that wonderful 10yr/120,000 mi warranty. Does anyone know a vehicle that ever had a longer warranty here in the US??
 

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One good thing about the isuzu ascender is as it ages/wears, parts will be plentiful. There will be about a gazillion trailblazers, envoys, etc.. on the road by then :roll: .

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The 2003 Ascender had a 10/120,000 as well, but the Rodeo and Axiom did not. But yeah. the 2004's 7/70,000 will still be good, only beaten by Suzuki with 7/100,000, and Hyundai and Kia's 10/100,000.
 

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Those long warranties are a marketing gimmick. The manufacturer does this purely as a marketing ploy. It does not equate that the vehicle is a quality vehicle in any way shape or form. Manufacturers with a bad reputation usually do this to boost sales. Dodge/Chrysler did it in the late 80s, VW did it in the early 90s and more recently Hyundai. There's a short list of manufacturers I will NEVER buy from...

Quite frankly, when a car manufacturer does this it just sends up red flags in my head.
 

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That's true, marketing folks just go by the statistics that nothing is likely to go wrong with the few parts that are actually covered, and the car's likely to have been bought and sold 2 or 3 times in 5 years, but the nice warranty boosts image and sales. My girlfriend's Explorer could have just as easily come with a 10/150K powertrain warranty, as the powertrain is still doing great at 167K, but it would be nice if all the other stuff still worked.
(disclaimer: I'm not dissing any vehicles, just agreeing with Jules' comment on the marketing ploy of "huge" warranties).
 

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it would make sense for Isuzu to use this "ploy". They are in rough times right now and could use all the help they can get...
 

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Jules said:
Those long warranties are a marketing gimmick
This is very true. Manufacturers do this boost sales, gain better market position.

Jules:
It does not equate that the vehicle is a quality vehicle in any way shape or form.
So you think GM's, Fords (and others) with 3yr/36Kmi warranties are a better buy/ better vehicle? :roll:

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JTK said:
Jules said:
Those long warranties are a marketing gimmick
This is very true. Manufacturers do this boost sales, gain better market position.

Jules:
It does not equate that the vehicle is a quality vehicle in any way shape or form.
So you think GM's, Fords (and others) with 3yr/36Kmi warranties are a better buy/ better vehicle? :roll:

Joel
Absolutely not. I was not implying that Ford or GM (lord no) was a better buy. Just that I would NEVER buy a vehicle simply because it had a better warranty. It is a very poor way to address reliability issues in my opinion but it seems to work on the masses.
 

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I hate to break the news to you but that great LONG warranty is severely shortened if you are not the original owner. :evil: This is such a marketing trick they are NOT covering the truck as much as they are covering the original owner the. Most buyers will only keep there vehicle 50k-60k miles.
 

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Jules- I'm with you on this, but I don't see isuzu's warranty as an attempt to mask reliability issues. Isuzu's are far from perfect trucks, but they are better than most in it's class. On paper I'd bet they'd far surpass American iron, given there was equal amounts of them on the road. That's what cracks me up about reliabilty "ratings". There is 10's of thousands more blazers, exploders, durango's, 4-runners, patchfinders, etc...(comperable trucks) on the road than isuzu trucks. Of course the "reliability" numbers are going to look better for such a HUGE study group, over a small group like isuzu.

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my casual observations....
y'all remember way back when SUVs were not a must-have for every soccer mom, and they weren't really referred to by the masses as SUVs? they were simply cherokees, broncos, blazers, etc...
that was actually as recently as 15 years ago. anyways, my point is this...how many '88 broncos, blazers, surbies, (remember the 1st gen. montero/dodge raider?) do you still see on the road? how many 1st. gen troopers do you see, along with late 80s cherokees? lots more, eh? hmmm...
 
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