I'm doing a diesel swap on my 89 LS. I'd like to make it a turbo diesel.
Just the exhaust?
Not the intake?
Not the turbo?
Not the injection pump?
This is a lot of work and cost for very little payout. And putting a a turbo on a tired little 40 year old engine and then using it in a Trooper is not a great plan for longevity. If Isuzu had to replace LOTS of factory turbo diesels due to failure, what chance does a 40 year ols engine have?
The C223 (and the C223-T) is better suited to a smaller vehicle.
You'd be much better off with a larger diesel like the 2.8L 4JB1-T or 3.1L 4JG2-T, preferably from Japan.
Not the intake?
Not the turbo?
Not the injection pump?
This is a lot of work and cost for very little payout. And putting a a turbo on a tired little 40 year old engine and then using it in a Trooper is not a great plan for longevity. If Isuzu had to replace LOTS of factory turbo diesels due to failure, what chance does a 40 year ols engine have?
The C223 (and the C223-T) is better suited to a smaller vehicle.
You'd be much better off with a larger diesel like the 2.8L 4JB1-T or 3.1L 4JG2-T, preferably from Japan.
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Agreed. Even the stock C223T is not enough to move a Trooper. It has 82 horsepower and your N/A engine makes about 56 and is not going to make all 82 unless you get all the other stuff JoeIsuzu mentioned. Mine is fully rebuilt (turbo too) and making as close to 82 horsepower as possible (note they can't make any more power as the rods will fly apart) and it is slow slow-- my right foot holds the accelerator to the floor 90% of the time I'm driving. I assume you have driven your Trooper with one of the two gasoline engines offered so you know its slow... imagine half the power at best. Note that you'll also need the C223 specific 5-speed 4x4 transmission (MSG5). The 4JB1-T will be the same work for a much more powerful engine that is far better suited for a Trooper. Another note -- if you are trying to make money as the turbo diesel Troopers go for far too much on Bring a Trailer and similar... only the US models (9000 units) with the US VIN and VIN saying it originally had the C223T have value, the swaps or imports don't bring anything special
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It's about 300 pounds heavier base model to base model (3245 lb vs. 3527 lb), but if the '89 is an LS then add even more and the 4 doors vs. 2 in most cases adds weight as well. It should be noted that the 89 will have a hydraulic clutch system and the 86 MSG5 transmission has a cable clutch so there will be some firewall modification necessary to switch over the clutch style to work the transmission. Also, custom transmission mounts will be in order as the pre 87 has a much different setup than the 88+, not to mention the axles changed completely between those years so two "bastard" driveshafts would be needed as well.
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That is all a lot of information so I'll start at that beginning...
I have two c223 engines that I'm building from the ground up.everything is gonna be replaced or machined. Thank you Turnerd, I was unaware of the rod issue but I'll throw some nice I-beams in and send it. I need the intake because I build projects. I have a shelf of t3/t4 turbos. The intake is a dumb part and I can't imagine them getting much gain from reinventing the wheel just to put a turbo on it, same with the injectors and pump but in all fairness I will look at it to see if there are any gains. I always wanted a diesel in my trooper and recently I found two of them in savage yards. One had a 5spd 2wd transmission. I'm on the process of stripping everything down and getting my parts list together for this build, I even have my divorced transfer case and am acquiring full size Chevy truck frontends because I want this to be 4wheel independent. I have a 91 for parts that I'm sourcing the frame from so I can still drive my 2.6l trooper around till the roller is ready. It will be a "new" truck when I'm done.
As for resale value, I have no plans on getting rid of it.
I would love to but a "bigger" engine but none are. Available here in the states and I've known a few people that have had diesel pups and they had half a million miles on them. I feel pretty secure with my choice of powerplant. So... Do either of you gentlemen have an exhaust manifold for sale?
I have two c223 engines that I'm building from the ground up.everything is gonna be replaced or machined. Thank you Turnerd, I was unaware of the rod issue but I'll throw some nice I-beams in and send it. I need the intake because I build projects. I have a shelf of t3/t4 turbos. The intake is a dumb part and I can't imagine them getting much gain from reinventing the wheel just to put a turbo on it, same with the injectors and pump but in all fairness I will look at it to see if there are any gains. I always wanted a diesel in my trooper and recently I found two of them in savage yards. One had a 5spd 2wd transmission. I'm on the process of stripping everything down and getting my parts list together for this build, I even have my divorced transfer case and am acquiring full size Chevy truck frontends because I want this to be 4wheel independent. I have a 91 for parts that I'm sourcing the frame from so I can still drive my 2.6l trooper around till the roller is ready. It will be a "new" truck when I'm done.
As for resale value, I have no plans on getting rid of it.
I would love to but a "bigger" engine but none are. Available here in the states and I've known a few people that have had diesel pups and they had half a million miles on them. I feel pretty secure with my choice of powerplant. So... Do either of you gentlemen have an exhaust manifold for sale?
Turbo exhaust manifolds are rarely available. When they are for sale, almost 100% of the time it means the pump and intake manifold are also available (because the engine failed).
The turbo pump has a larger fuel delivery piston (I think that's the correct term) and has boost compensation.
The intake manifold has a blowoff valve installed on it.
I once stumbled across the entire setup on Craigslist, because the seller listed it as "miscellaneous parts" and even misspelled "Isuzu". I traded that to a friend, years ago.
The turbo pump has a larger fuel delivery piston (I think that's the correct term) and has boost compensation.
The intake manifold has a blowoff valve installed on it.
I once stumbled across the entire setup on Craigslist, because the seller listed it as "miscellaneous parts" and even misspelled "Isuzu". I traded that to a friend, years ago.
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That's awesome!!! For safety I'll need a blowoff but I generally install those in the plumbing. And as far as the pump goes I was just planning to advance it a couple of degrees.
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